His Lt Governor is Peggy Flanagan, a member of the White Earth Band of Ojibwe and the highest ranking Native women elected to executive office. I heard an interview of the two of them at the Minnesota State Fair, I think on the local NPR affiliate, and they were so delightful together. I hope if her profile is elevated from whatever happens with him because I could see her star rising in the Democratic Party.
If it really is down to these three Walz is the only one without any drawbacks as far as I can see. Rightly or wrongly Keely can be portrayed as anti union (and you know that stooge who spoke at the RNC will be out there pressing that message), and Shapiro will push away the people in the party who have lost their absolute minds over Israel simply because he's Jewish (but no anti-semitism there, no no no never *eye roll*). But even leaving those out Walz just seems like the best hype man while having the political instincts to be the most effective at having her back. Vet him from here until the very last second because we absolutely don't need a Vance situation but again, if it's between these three, he's the guy.
As a Minnesotan, I love that Walz is getting recognition, but I selfishly want him to stay in MN. The DFL has squeaked out a majority in the state legislature and are really taking advantage as much as they can. Amazing.
I'm trusting in Kamala Harris to select the person she is ready to stand next to every day. Biden took a risk when he chose her, and she's entitled to do the same.
Walz sure seems like a straight shooter, and he's pretty quick and witty, to boot. I think he did a pretty decent job of handling the death of George Floyd and its aftermath. And I don't really mind that he's not well known nationally and comes from a solidly blue state which won't automatically bring electoral votes with him He would smoke Vance in a one-on-one face off. But if he and the VP don't make that connection on some sort of personal level, she shouldn't pick him.
As an Iowan, I am familiar with Waltz. Specifically how he applied progressive policies like increasing the corporate tax rate and making weed legal in order to fund education programs. That's exactly what we should be doing more of.
That said... he's not exciting. And, right now, the Harris campaign has AMAZING momentum. To that end, Kelly seems like the natural pick.
I hate to be superficial about it, but a guy who has been to space is a lot cooler than a guy who's gonna politely remind you to eat your vegetables, politically speaking.
I'm happy with either of them, to be clear. I just don't see the wind at Waltz's back right now.
I was thinking that, but you who has been all over my TikTok feed all weekend? Tim Walz. I have never seen a TikTok of Kelly. And the young voters are commenting and liking the videos with Walz. I think he may not be as boring. He seems to have that dad, everything will be ok, let's put our trust in him energy.
I know we should not count on TikTok but clips of him are all over the app and seem to do really well.
I gotta disagree about him being "not exciting." I find his policies and demeanor incredibly exciting. I do agree with Harold Bissonette that Harris really needs to vibe with her VP pick (Caine and Clinton sure didn't), but if they do, I like him a whole lot more than Shapiro or Kelly. I am also a Secretary Pete fan, but I am not hearing his name in contention for the pick.
For clarity, I find his policies VERY exciting. Although, maybe that got transmuted into "not exciting" because I feel like these are almost table stakes. This is what we should have ALWAYS been doing.
But I see your logic and understand it. Caine and Clinton didn't really mesh. But I can see Waltz getting along very well with Harris.
If I had my druthers, I'd want Buttigeig in a stone cold minute. But the timing is bad. Republicans have to have a longer history of historically bad nominees before America could ignore it's homophobia long enough to elect the first openly gay VP.
I know you're not on twitter anymore (and it definitely shouldn't be used as a barometer for anything even in the old days) but people on there are excited af about him. They're the only reason I know who he is since I swore off cable news after the debate.
He also low-key would barb Kim back when she'd say something about liberal Minneapolis. Never made the news because she got deflated in a very-non exiting way each time. Waltz knows how to deal with the 3rd stringers.
Oooh my governor. I'm embarrassed to say I know very little about him, local politics here in MN isn't always super exciting, we're pretty Dem around these parts (I know, we have to claim Michelle Bachman, don't remind me), so I haven't been paying as much attention (although I ALWAYS vote, Dem down the ticket). I would be thrilled with any of the candidates, esp Kelly, I don't know how anyone doesn't get on board with an astronaut!!! But Walz, that would be so cool. Minnesota has A LOT of Trumpers, mostly in rural areas (ugh, it's painful), but I don't know too many people that complain about Walz.
The NRA hates him like a traitor because he walked away from their mad agenda. That they don't rail against him is because they can't get any traction. He's damn good at deflecting it.
Pretty Dem if you stay in the Twin Cities metro area. Some of us have to drive by a giant Trump made out of hay bales every time we go to visit our parents in central MN. Rep. Tom Emmer, MN-6, gave a horrendous speech at the RNC. We are a blue-leaning purple state.
I grew up in rural mn in the 80’s & 90’s with lots of family still there. As I was explaining Tim Walz to husband, I found the wiki page with info about all the mn governors races. It was so crazy to see the maps that showed how each county voted, red, blue, purple (Jesse Ventura days). MN politics are all over the place and have been for a long time. Just from visiting twice in the past six months, the rural parts I travel through are solid red…many people love the bombastic trump campaign style (see some of themselves in him), pissed about crop prices and corporations buying up land, scared the libtards are coming for their guns, turn everyone vegan, and kill all the babies (billboards everywhere sponsored by MN concerned citizens for Life, headed by USHouse Rep Michelle Fishbach’s husband). It’s like they’ve all forgotten about the party, Democratic Farm Labor, who cared about farmers and the life and land they love and work.
I like him more than the others right now. Also am I crazy that no one is reporting about the Shapiro NDA? I’m really worried either Holder knows and doesn’t think it matters if they pick him and or they don’t know at all. The media is going to go after him really hard with that cause of Roe V Wade.
Between the NDA and him being pro vouchers I am all set on Shapiro. I am running for my second term on school committee and you know who is all in on vouchers? White women who want to live in our awesome little city but don't want to send their kids to school with those kids. School vouchers are modern day segregation and have hurt public schools.
I think Shapiro has to do a little work to clean up some of his missteps (school vouchers, college students protesting). The NDA is because a top aid in his administration was accused of sexual harassment, there was a 6 figure payout and everyone had to sign NDAs.
I don't know why Democrats don't lean harder on trump for sending Mike Pompeo (not qualified to be anything more substantial than a vacuum cleaner salesman), to negotiate directly with the Taliban about the US withdrawal from Afghanistan. There's even a photo! Trump sold out the Afghan government to our enemies before Biden took over. The actual withdrawal being a shit show was a forgone conclusion after that.
I for one just really, really, really (for selfish reasons) want to hang on to Andy Beshear because we need him. He'd be great, and his recent serial roasting of JD has been delicious, but Kamala has a lot of options right now and Kentucky does not.
I happen to think that a formal legal education is essential to a career in government. But that said, Al Gore only attended law school for about a year.
The Democrats are currently riding a tsunami of vibes. That’s great but it’s also incredibly delicate and ephemeral. The fundamentals are still extremely against Harris, and to think that Trump has been preemptively defeated simply by virtue of the political muscle confusion of the last week would be naive and foolish. The triumphalism I’ve been seeing from partisan Dems since Biden stepped down has felt like a potential preamble to disaster.
What Dems need to do, since they’ve gone all in on shock-and-awe vibes as their strategy for winning this election, is to keep the excitement maximally UP every opportunity they get. This would not be a viable strategy for an entire campaign, but it might be possible for three months.
Walz is boring. He’s who she should choose if she were up 6 points instead of down 2. And to that point can we recognize that she is still *down* in the polls, not up? It’s also foolish to think that picking the governor of Minnesota (not a swing state) delivers the rest of the upper Midwest. Minnesotans are not the same as Wisconsinites or Michiganders, at all.
I don’t think she should pick Shapiro but the implication that his being Jewish is the problem is dumb. Are Democrats going to live in fear of a bunch of antisemitic leftists cosplaying as Hamas? Anybody who called Biden “genocide Joe” is not somebody whose vote we should be pursuing, or moreover somebody who is likely to vote at all.
You go for excitement, which to me is Kelly. Or Pete, but that comes with its own problems.
His Lt Governor is Peggy Flanagan, a member of the White Earth Band of Ojibwe and the highest ranking Native women elected to executive office. I heard an interview of the two of them at the Minnesota State Fair, I think on the local NPR affiliate, and they were so delightful together. I hope if her profile is elevated from whatever happens with him because I could see her star rising in the Democratic Party.
If it really is down to these three Walz is the only one without any drawbacks as far as I can see. Rightly or wrongly Keely can be portrayed as anti union (and you know that stooge who spoke at the RNC will be out there pressing that message), and Shapiro will push away the people in the party who have lost their absolute minds over Israel simply because he's Jewish (but no anti-semitism there, no no no never *eye roll*). But even leaving those out Walz just seems like the best hype man while having the political instincts to be the most effective at having her back. Vet him from here until the very last second because we absolutely don't need a Vance situation but again, if it's between these three, he's the guy.
As a Minnesotan, I love that Walz is getting recognition, but I selfishly want him to stay in MN. The DFL has squeaked out a majority in the state legislature and are really taking advantage as much as they can. Amazing.
That is how I feel about Gretchen Whitmer (although I don't think she was ever seriously considered). Let us keep her as long as we can!
I'm trusting in Kamala Harris to select the person she is ready to stand next to every day. Biden took a risk when he chose her, and she's entitled to do the same.
Walz sure seems like a straight shooter, and he's pretty quick and witty, to boot. I think he did a pretty decent job of handling the death of George Floyd and its aftermath. And I don't really mind that he's not well known nationally and comes from a solidly blue state which won't automatically bring electoral votes with him He would smoke Vance in a one-on-one face off. But if he and the VP don't make that connection on some sort of personal level, she shouldn't pick him.
I’ll be on brand and say you had me at former teacher. LFG!
As an Iowan, I am familiar with Waltz. Specifically how he applied progressive policies like increasing the corporate tax rate and making weed legal in order to fund education programs. That's exactly what we should be doing more of.
That said... he's not exciting. And, right now, the Harris campaign has AMAZING momentum. To that end, Kelly seems like the natural pick.
I hate to be superficial about it, but a guy who has been to space is a lot cooler than a guy who's gonna politely remind you to eat your vegetables, politically speaking.
I'm happy with either of them, to be clear. I just don't see the wind at Waltz's back right now.
I was thinking that, but you who has been all over my TikTok feed all weekend? Tim Walz. I have never seen a TikTok of Kelly. And the young voters are commenting and liking the videos with Walz. I think he may not be as boring. He seems to have that dad, everything will be ok, let's put our trust in him energy.
I know we should not count on TikTok but clips of him are all over the app and seem to do really well.
I gotta disagree about him being "not exciting." I find his policies and demeanor incredibly exciting. I do agree with Harold Bissonette that Harris really needs to vibe with her VP pick (Caine and Clinton sure didn't), but if they do, I like him a whole lot more than Shapiro or Kelly. I am also a Secretary Pete fan, but I am not hearing his name in contention for the pick.
For clarity, I find his policies VERY exciting. Although, maybe that got transmuted into "not exciting" because I feel like these are almost table stakes. This is what we should have ALWAYS been doing.
But I see your logic and understand it. Caine and Clinton didn't really mesh. But I can see Waltz getting along very well with Harris.
If I had my druthers, I'd want Buttigeig in a stone cold minute. But the timing is bad. Republicans have to have a longer history of historically bad nominees before America could ignore it's homophobia long enough to elect the first openly gay VP.
I know you're not on twitter anymore (and it definitely shouldn't be used as a barometer for anything even in the old days) but people on there are excited af about him. They're the only reason I know who he is since I swore off cable news after the debate.
He also low-key would barb Kim back when she'd say something about liberal Minneapolis. Never made the news because she got deflated in a very-non exiting way each time. Waltz knows how to deal with the 3rd stringers.
CNN:
"Let's quit 2 year elections and go to 100 days of butt whipping," says Walz.
"We don't even have to sleep. We can sleep when we are dead."
He says Democrats will expand universal meals and health care access, move towards a clean energy economy
. . . . and I will now follow this man into hell.
The difference between Hollywood aging and real people aging.
Giving strong Biden in 2008 vibes and I mean that in a good way.
Oooh my governor. I'm embarrassed to say I know very little about him, local politics here in MN isn't always super exciting, we're pretty Dem around these parts (I know, we have to claim Michelle Bachman, don't remind me), so I haven't been paying as much attention (although I ALWAYS vote, Dem down the ticket). I would be thrilled with any of the candidates, esp Kelly, I don't know how anyone doesn't get on board with an astronaut!!! But Walz, that would be so cool. Minnesota has A LOT of Trumpers, mostly in rural areas (ugh, it's painful), but I don't know too many people that complain about Walz.
The NRA hates him like a traitor because he walked away from their mad agenda. That they don't rail against him is because they can't get any traction. He's damn good at deflecting it.
Pretty Dem if you stay in the Twin Cities metro area. Some of us have to drive by a giant Trump made out of hay bales every time we go to visit our parents in central MN. Rep. Tom Emmer, MN-6, gave a horrendous speech at the RNC. We are a blue-leaning purple state.
I grew up in rural mn in the 80’s & 90’s with lots of family still there. As I was explaining Tim Walz to husband, I found the wiki page with info about all the mn governors races. It was so crazy to see the maps that showed how each county voted, red, blue, purple (Jesse Ventura days). MN politics are all over the place and have been for a long time. Just from visiting twice in the past six months, the rural parts I travel through are solid red…many people love the bombastic trump campaign style (see some of themselves in him), pissed about crop prices and corporations buying up land, scared the libtards are coming for their guns, turn everyone vegan, and kill all the babies (billboards everywhere sponsored by MN concerned citizens for Life, headed by USHouse Rep Michelle Fishbach’s husband). It’s like they’ve all forgotten about the party, Democratic Farm Labor, who cared about farmers and the life and land they love and work.
I like him more than the others right now. Also am I crazy that no one is reporting about the Shapiro NDA? I’m really worried either Holder knows and doesn’t think it matters if they pick him and or they don’t know at all. The media is going to go after him really hard with that cause of Roe V Wade.
Between the NDA and him being pro vouchers I am all set on Shapiro. I am running for my second term on school committee and you know who is all in on vouchers? White women who want to live in our awesome little city but don't want to send their kids to school with those kids. School vouchers are modern day segregation and have hurt public schools.
The school voucher push is so weird and a terrible idea.
"on Shapiro" or off? 'Cause the rest of the comment me think you wouldn't want him running as VP.
I think Shapiro has to do a little work to clean up some of his missteps (school vouchers, college students protesting). The NDA is because a top aid in his administration was accused of sexual harassment, there was a 6 figure payout and everyone had to sign NDAs.
You would think the news that vouchers are causing a massive budget crisis in Arizona (because the idiots didn't just limit the vouchers to lower income and middle class families) would give them a bit of a pause. But no, the racism is more important.... https://www.propublica.org/article/arizona-school-vouchers-budget-meltdown#:~:text=Arizona%2C%20the%20model%20for%20voucher,critical%20state%20programs%20and%20projects.&text=ProPublica%20is%20a%20nonprofit%20newsroom%20that%20investigates%20abuses%20of%20power.
Haven't heard about an NDA.
https://www.inquirer.com/politics/pennsylvania/josh-shapiro-sexual-harrassment-settlement-mike-vereb-20231020.html
If you don’t have Philly inquirer here’s another article that goes into it:
https://whyy.org/articles/pennsylvania-josh-shapiro-mike-vereb-sexual-harassment-settlement/amp/
I don't know why Democrats don't lean harder on trump for sending Mike Pompeo (not qualified to be anything more substantial than a vacuum cleaner salesman), to negotiate directly with the Taliban about the US withdrawal from Afghanistan. There's even a photo! Trump sold out the Afghan government to our enemies before Biden took over. The actual withdrawal being a shit show was a forgone conclusion after that.
Alright, Tim Walz is it for me.
I for one just really, really, really (for selfish reasons) want to hang on to Andy Beshear because we need him. He'd be great, and his recent serial roasting of JD has been delicious, but Kamala has a lot of options right now and Kentucky does not.
If she were to pick Walz, he would be the first candidate in over 40 years to not have gone to law school on the democratic ticket.
I happen to think that a formal legal education is essential to a career in government. But that said, Al Gore only attended law school for about a year.
The Democrats are currently riding a tsunami of vibes. That’s great but it’s also incredibly delicate and ephemeral. The fundamentals are still extremely against Harris, and to think that Trump has been preemptively defeated simply by virtue of the political muscle confusion of the last week would be naive and foolish. The triumphalism I’ve been seeing from partisan Dems since Biden stepped down has felt like a potential preamble to disaster.
What Dems need to do, since they’ve gone all in on shock-and-awe vibes as their strategy for winning this election, is to keep the excitement maximally UP every opportunity they get. This would not be a viable strategy for an entire campaign, but it might be possible for three months.
Walz is boring. He’s who she should choose if she were up 6 points instead of down 2. And to that point can we recognize that she is still *down* in the polls, not up? It’s also foolish to think that picking the governor of Minnesota (not a swing state) delivers the rest of the upper Midwest. Minnesotans are not the same as Wisconsinites or Michiganders, at all.
I don’t think she should pick Shapiro but the implication that his being Jewish is the problem is dumb. Are Democrats going to live in fear of a bunch of antisemitic leftists cosplaying as Hamas? Anybody who called Biden “genocide Joe” is not somebody whose vote we should be pursuing, or moreover somebody who is likely to vote at all.
You go for excitement, which to me is Kelly. Or Pete, but that comes with its own problems.
Who says too old?
It's great she has so many choices. I was hoping for Pete, but we know this backwards country could handle that ticket-yet.
I love how quickly the entire mood has changed. I'm so sick of all the negativity.
I'm excited there are so many good choices too. Whoever it is, I'm on board. My gut has been saying Kelly since last Sunday night, but who knows.