I am not Palestinian, and have never been a target of bad policing or had reason to fear "the authorities." So I'm going to say this while acknowledging that my own privileged, lucky existence biases my perspective: I hope that we Democrats can subdue our completely rational distrust of "Harris-Walz Republicans" at our table enough to get through dinner, as it were.
Because we need them. We need every single damn person who is awake enough to see the existential threat Trump poses, and ready to resist it. We need the votes of the cops who are out there trying to do it right, and the soldiers who serve honorably (and struggle to reconcile their public duty with their private soul in ways many of us will never need to know). We need the votes of the people who LOVE those people, and bristle - justifiably - to see them summarily vilified by job title. And we need to let Kamala Harris be their candidate, their champion, and their president too...WITHOUT losing faith, or punishing her for it, or slacking in our efforts to get her elected, or undermining her outreach with ominous grumbles about where her loyalties will surely lie (or had better lie!) once she's in.
I'm not suggesting anyone forget the past or enter the future with blinders on. Kamala Harris won't; she's not stupid. But you can demand accountability, honor and integrity from people without vilifying an entire profession. You can welcome GOP defectors with sincerity AND wariness. If Kamala Harris does in fact turn out to be the "cure" for our democracy, it won't be because of any particular policy or legislation or executive action she took - it'll be her skill inspiring and mobilizing Americans to cure it ourselves, and for that to work, we need all hands on deck.
ETA : Just to be clear, I am not suggesting for one damn second that we back off our platform to "court" never-Trumpers or pretend that "economic anxiety" explains away racism, or any other misguided BS. By all means, post the house rules by the door so there's no confusion, but don't sh*t on people for walking in.
What threat is that exactly? Can you name any specific policies?
I can name specific attacks Harris has made on the Constitution, namely the1st Amendment (threat to shut down Xer) and 2nd Amendment (threat to seize guns if no gun legislation is passed in 1st 100 days).
I can name a specific attack on the constitution that Trump made: Jan 6th.
And it's Twitter, bro. The only serious people who will ever call it X are business historians talking about the all-time greatest evaporations of brand value.
Sorry about your brain virus. Maybe it will be better with a dose of MAHA in 2025. BTW our democracy was making a miraculous comeback from 2016 until 2020. But I feel a cure coming on in November!
The latter thing boggles me. The gun circles/groups I monitor run away from Kelly & especially Giffords for the obvious reason, the same one that protected Jim Brady after he survived Reagan's assassination attempt. But there's something in the recent communications that I can't put my finger on. It's like they've caught the car for broad gun rights, and they know that Rahimi (we can take guns from bad people) is the signal that new restrictions are coming.
It’s weird right? And my dad is hardcore 2A-gun safe with a variety of weaponry, always armed (usually with a Glock and a decent sized knife), but…. It’s like Tim Walz and Mark Kelly and that Sheriff that spoke might be giving the 2A/man’s man crowd permission to… think for themselves?
I think the NRA’s implosion and bankruptcy/fraud/leaders being found guilty of corruption and fraud issues have also helped with that, so they haven’t been as active the past 3 years.
There are other gun rights groups that with undoubtedly rise in their place, but in the meantime, maybe letting gun enthusiasts breath in the regular air for a bit?
Is that normal for where you live? If I saw someone was a gun and knife I’d freak out. I live in coastal Calif and maybe some people have guns hidden but I think getting a license for one is very difficult.
I don't understand that clang on a person. A knife is a useful thing, many guys who grew up before 1975 carry knives or multi-tools now and it's even a trope from NCIS and Leroy Jethro Gibbs. Show me a rural guy over the age of 18 who doesn't. But a pistol?
My DIL's beloved stepfather and brother are always armed in pictures on FB. Drives me crazy, who or what will they encounter in one of the poorest rural counties of Iowa that requires 17 9mm bullets?
I picked up the habit from my grandfather (carrying a swiss army knife), got a Leatherman as soon as I saw one, and basically never looked back. I feel weird without a tool like that, tbh. I don't always carry one, but it's in my studio/workspace, on my desk, etc. at least.
I can't imagine carrying a pistol. It seems both comical/cos-playish and super frightening and dystopian.
The criminals in Atlanta might come north, and “I’ve gotta protect your mama, she’s delicate” (literal words from his mouth). He also has a Doberman that would eat your face on his command, but is a goofy snuggle bunny for family. 🙄
Now what I will say about his 72 year old ass is that he’s still steady and has good reflexes, still 20/20 vision, and he’s sharp as shit, and when someone hurt my son he was right behind me absolutely vicious in protecting him without pulling out a weapon, ready to throw down with fists (old man, one hip surgery was enough). But Jesus, the armory is unnecessary in FOCO, GA.
Do you really think we believe that astroturf bullshit?
"Upon being elected, I will give the United States Congress 100 days to get their act together and have the courage to pass reasonable gun safety laws. And if they fail to do it, then I will take executive action."
Idk what to say. I want to be profound, I want to draw from history, but nothing feels strong enough, so I’ll just say: I can’t remember the last time I was genuinely excited like this.
She literally said free speech in America is a contingent privilege, this is radically incorrect it is a Connotationally guaranteed right under the 1st Amendment. Considering she passed the BAR, she does know better, and is lying on behalf of the tyranny of overturning the Bill of Rights.
LOL, you gave me nothing to expand on, your post was wholly lacking policy specifics. Would you like to discuss a specific policy like Harris's attack this weekend on X for allowing free speech that is legal under the 1s Amendment, and thus with which the government is barred from interfering with?
I gave you nothing because I... wasn't talking to you lol. You also were replying to the content of the article, which you seem to have a problem with, only no now you want me to feed you talking points to be shrill about.
But sure if you want to talk about an alleged attack on Harris, go for it, I'm all ears. After that we can talk about how Elon the Free Speech Absolutist so far has an 80% compliance rate with speech restriction requests from authoritarian governments.
1) You came here unprompted and made incendiary comments
2) You immediately tried to deflect instead of making an entire point, presumably because you had none.
3) You then pulled in something that had nothing to do with the article we're both commenting on, nothing to do with your earlier comments, and refused even to defend that more than one level deep.
4) You shared an article from a dude who thinks Trump was the victim of a "palace coup" as your source of unbiased journalism.
You know if I didn’t know better, I’d say banning me from your little echo chamber was a tantrum, which I have on good authority Real Men don’t have. Come here to play any time, cupcake. You are adorable.
I want to give a shout-out to the one-man focus group in Mara-lago offering real-time feedback about Harris’ speech. 50 tweets in an hour is a pretty good sign Harris nailed it.
"A serious speech" is exactly right. And I'm glad for it.
So much has been made about Harris as the "joyful warrior" - and clearly that's a message that is resonating and needs to be in the mix. But that speech demonstrated that Harris is Presidential with a capital "P" - and being serious about the challenges the country faces played a large part in that.
She’s smart and personable and her experience as VP and knowledge of foreign affairs and the way things actually work shone through last night. How anyone can listen to her and then listen to trump and say I’m undecided or yeah I’ll go with the Hannibal Lector guy, is mind boggling. Tax cuts and hating people of color and taking away abortion rights is a hell of a drug.
Loved this-
"My entire career, I've only had one client: the people. And so, on behalf of the people, on behalf of every American regardless of party, race, gender or the language your grandmother speaks, on behalf of my mother and everyone who has ever set out on their own unlikely journey, on behalf of Americans like the people I grew up with, people who work hard, chase their dreams, and look out for one another, on behalf of everyone whose story could only be written in the greatest nation on earth, I accept your nomination to be president of the United States of America."
Maybe if you have a room temperature IQ she looks smart and personable, to normal people she looks like the drunk middle manager boss who locks herself in the office when hung over.
If she's so smart, can she explain what "being unburdened by what has been" and any of her other nonsense word salad utterances? I just can't imagine how any normal person thinks she's smart at all.
What was "serious" about it? The only substance was her undying commitment to continue funding and supplying arms for Israel's genocide in Gaza, which is nauseating.
And isn’t it funny that nobody referred to her potential presidency as groundbreaking? It’s so smart to just let a woman of color tell her story as an American story and her rise as a result of American opportunity. I know there will be flaws in the days and weeks ahead, because nobody is perfect, but this campaign so far is as close as it gets.
Exactly! Leave the identity grievances to the GOP. Harris is Harris, and her story is all of our stories. We can all see something of ourselves in her upbringing, and she framed that perfectly against the non-relatability of Trump.
Groundbreaking in what way? The one assignment she got as VP border czar she hopelessly fucked up and now we have Venezuelan gangs taking over apartment complexes in Colorado.
That's because of that happened with Hillary Clinton. People felt they were being "forced" to vote for her because of the historic nature of her candidacy. Harris speech was all about demonstrating that you should vote for her because she's the most qualified candidate. Her race and sex don't matter. It's a very smart message that targets white, independent voters.
I was watching the MSNBC coverage, and they talked about that a bit after, how she is not leaning into the historic nature of it all, and it makes a lot of sense.
I wasn't worried about her presentation or her rhetoric, but she managed to exceed my expectations and I very much enjoy the fact she crushed it.
Now I'm going back to fretting about the way MAGA racists have set things up to force the outcome of the election to come from the courts. They've made election ratf#%*ing into a life goal at this point (has there ever been a candidate shout out to the efforts of state-level election board members?) . I can only hope and beg the Harris/Walz margin of victory is wide enough --looking at you, Georgia-- to leave no room for even remotely plausible, bad faith election fraud protests.
So which Discord are you and Mr. Raven from? Or was it just 8kun? Either way, your mom's calling you for dinner. I hope you have enough Good Boy Points for a plate of tendies.
100% agree, Dustin. The entire convention was a superb set up for the final act and it met all hopes and expectations! I had a hard time falling asleep last night.
ETA. She has such great instincts. On Sunday, CNN published a piece about Harris being told to stop saying "we're not going back," and "weird." She listened and basically said nah, Imma listen to what the audience is organically giving us. This is a benefit of a short election cycle. No spending months or years researching or testing things developed in a laboratory. Just listen to the people. We will tell you every time.
From CNN: "Over the line came a lot of praise, but also some suggested tweaks. First, said veteran Democratic numbers man Geoff Garin, summarizing their analysis, stop saying, “We’re not going back.” It wasn’t focused enough on the future, he argued. Second, lay off all the “weird” talk — too negative."
We're not going back is a perfect antidote to Make America great again. It's a fight phrase that can be chanted.
And the weird thing is perfect because it seems to have really gotten under the right's skin. And any time they try to defend against it, it's just a confirmation of how weird they are. Why are you like this? Etc
I'm starting to think some of these campaign advisors don't get it.
Yeah, the PSA boys aren't always right or even properly informed, but they sure think they are. I stopped listening to them when they joined the MSM drumbeat to put Biden out on the ice floe in that graceless, insensitive, unkind way that so many had. A real "fuck you for your service, Mr. Biden."
The MSM are not Kamala's and Tim's. MSM belong to their corporate and oligarch masters. If they get tired of joy, it's because it doesn't serve their purposes when meddling in politics (instead of merely reporting on the politics).
Kamala listened to the people. That's what she should be doing. As a mere American citizen, I'm tired of the idea that many of us are people while others are People and some are PEOPLE. Cepiche? Democracy NOW!
"Unburdened by what has been..." You do realize that was the worldview of the inner party in 1984? The reason people attack history is because they don't want you to have any standards to compare the present day to.
And those sayings work because they mean something. They're not empty the way a lot of slogans can be. Anyone paying attention knows exactly what "we're not going back" really means and what we're actually being threatened with. And they are truly weird, no doubt. And Do Something is the antidote to despair and spiralling anxiety. Any of these could come from a wise friend, therapist or mentor giving you life skills.
I love that she's going with her instincts. it feels like a lot of the tweaks or feedback (present or past) usually come from appealing to whatever the media says is valuable not what actual people think.
I do wonder what the DNC was thinking putting Panetta, Kinzinger, Kelly & Cooper in the Day 4 slots. To me, it felt like they really put the brakes on the momentum that had been building all week. Like, yes, they should have spoken at the DNC, but maybe not Day 4? Maybe Day 1 or 3? Not Roll Call Day. That was it's own special party, and I have already watched it three times.
I know that a "special guest" might have stolen some thunder if done right before Harris spoke, but I can't help but think that they (whoever "they" might have been) could have at least warmed up the crowd to surface-of-the-sun levels before Maya Harris came out and made the introduction. Her speech should have been Harris's intro, not Cooper's.
Kelly and Cooper’s slots might have been a consolation prize after missing the Veep slot.
Kinzinger is so the summary of yesterday’s events that low information voters might hear includes a sentence about how former Republicans have endorsed Harris (and probably some targeted ads).
Pannetta was to burnish her foreign policy credentials and maybe to put a thumb in the eye of the Trump campaign for the Clinton campaign leaks they promoted.
The Tennessee Three were supposed to speak last night. I'm bummed they were bumped, but I'msure there was a good reason.. They are living in Republican he'll right now.
My guess is they looked at Day 4 and her speech as a pitch to all voters, including trying to bring in dissatisfied Republicans and conservatives, as well as swing states of Arizona and North Carolina. The 3 days leading up to it were the celebration for the Democrats, who are already supporting her completely.
Thank you for articulating why, as good as her speech was, Day 4 felt off. Except for a few exceptions, Warren, & the Exonerated Five, & Rep. Maxwell Frost, it felt like what Biden’s day 4 would’ve been like had he not dropped out. Moderates, centerists, & Never Trumpers. I would have preferred a better mix of all of the party. Like, AOC should have been saved for day 4 in a prime time slot.
And only one effing Republican because for all their “I’m voting Harris/Walz” they still are republicans who vote the GOP party line when push comes to shove. I would bet that pretty near every single one of them would leave the Democrats in the lurch if Trump suddenly drops out & the GOP put someone like Nikki Haley in his spot. They shouldn’t spend so much time giving air to people whose only reason to vote for the Democrats is because of Trump.
"(I’ve been wondering a lot the last couple of weeks if the Supreme Court would have ruled the same way if they thought Kamala Harris would be President)." the "conservatives" on the Supreme Court were involved in the Clinton impeachment and Gore V Florida as advocates for Bush among other things, they have never apologized, no need to wonder.
I just read an article about how Tester's opponent "stepped on the third rail" of Montana politics, originally advocating for local takeover of Federal lands, which will ostensibly lead to privatization. Having just got to Colorado, I can tell you how unpopular privatization of public lands is out West. Everyone wants their public access to land and lakes and rivers for hiking and hunting and fishing. I hope Tester's opponent takes a BIG hit on his unpopular opinion, which nicely coincides with Trump's similar opinions on privatizing public domains.
Here's hoping. Republicans have never quite figured out how to splice pro-business privatization with 'Don't Tread on Me' rural libertarianism, which is how you get these wonky Tester or John Bel Edwards wins.
On public lands, there is also a contingent who wants more public lands opened up—the ranchers especially want more grazing and water use rights (even though they get plenty), and then mining corps want more opened up for mining. That’s how you get the Bundys and their supporters.
RFK Jr. *sigh* There's always a spoiler, right? How this man thinks, with his voice issue, Trump, of all people, is going to give him a prominent role in his administration is beyond me. I have no doubt Trump mocks his voice behind his back. No way will he hire him. RFK Jrs dad and uncle are rolling in their graves. What a joke he is.
They need to discredit RFKJ in a way that resonates and sticks like glue for all the low-information voters out there who just hear "Kennedy" and stop thinking. When people hear or see him, they need to NOT see JFK, RFK, Jackie, Ethel, poor little John-John saluting, touch football, etc. They need to see a rich a$$hole who said "Vote for me and the Google guy's ex-wife to fight corruption!" - then crawled up the hole of the twice-impeached, convicted-felon to beg for a job.
Yeah how dare RFK Jr. call out the proxy war war against Russia, and how our corporate agribusiness based food system is killing people with low nutrition food, leading to people eating more, leading to obesity, leading to heart disease? That would require actual thinking, so much easier to float along on a cloud of substance free "joy," spiced with ad hominem idn' it?
I am not Palestinian, and have never been a target of bad policing or had reason to fear "the authorities." So I'm going to say this while acknowledging that my own privileged, lucky existence biases my perspective: I hope that we Democrats can subdue our completely rational distrust of "Harris-Walz Republicans" at our table enough to get through dinner, as it were.
Because we need them. We need every single damn person who is awake enough to see the existential threat Trump poses, and ready to resist it. We need the votes of the cops who are out there trying to do it right, and the soldiers who serve honorably (and struggle to reconcile their public duty with their private soul in ways many of us will never need to know). We need the votes of the people who LOVE those people, and bristle - justifiably - to see them summarily vilified by job title. And we need to let Kamala Harris be their candidate, their champion, and their president too...WITHOUT losing faith, or punishing her for it, or slacking in our efforts to get her elected, or undermining her outreach with ominous grumbles about where her loyalties will surely lie (or had better lie!) once she's in.
I'm not suggesting anyone forget the past or enter the future with blinders on. Kamala Harris won't; she's not stupid. But you can demand accountability, honor and integrity from people without vilifying an entire profession. You can welcome GOP defectors with sincerity AND wariness. If Kamala Harris does in fact turn out to be the "cure" for our democracy, it won't be because of any particular policy or legislation or executive action she took - it'll be her skill inspiring and mobilizing Americans to cure it ourselves, and for that to work, we need all hands on deck.
ETA : Just to be clear, I am not suggesting for one damn second that we back off our platform to "court" never-Trumpers or pretend that "economic anxiety" explains away racism, or any other misguided BS. By all means, post the house rules by the door so there's no confusion, but don't sh*t on people for walking in.
You are hopelessly ignorant
What threat is that exactly? Can you name any specific policies?
I can name specific attacks Harris has made on the Constitution, namely the1st Amendment (threat to shut down Xer) and 2nd Amendment (threat to seize guns if no gun legislation is passed in 1st 100 days).
I can name a specific attack on the constitution that Trump made: Jan 6th.
And it's Twitter, bro. The only serious people who will ever call it X are business historians talking about the all-time greatest evaporations of brand value.
Sorry about your brain virus. Maybe it will be better with a dose of MAHA in 2025. BTW our democracy was making a miraculous comeback from 2016 until 2020. But I feel a cure coming on in November!
Amazing…🤦🏻♂️
Well said, Dustin. Well said. I am full of hope and joy for our politics in a way I haven’t felt in years.
My RWNJ father has said nothing negative about any of this, and praised TF out of Giffords and Kelly specifically. What is even happening?
"Joy" is not a political position you mindless, NPC moron
What I said.
The latter thing boggles me. The gun circles/groups I monitor run away from Kelly & especially Giffords for the obvious reason, the same one that protected Jim Brady after he survived Reagan's assassination attempt. But there's something in the recent communications that I can't put my finger on. It's like they've caught the car for broad gun rights, and they know that Rahimi (we can take guns from bad people) is the signal that new restrictions are coming.
It’s weird right? And my dad is hardcore 2A-gun safe with a variety of weaponry, always armed (usually with a Glock and a decent sized knife), but…. It’s like Tim Walz and Mark Kelly and that Sheriff that spoke might be giving the 2A/man’s man crowd permission to… think for themselves?
Who knows if it’ll last.
I think the NRA’s implosion and bankruptcy/fraud/leaders being found guilty of corruption and fraud issues have also helped with that, so they haven’t been as active the past 3 years.
There are other gun rights groups that with undoubtedly rise in their place, but in the meantime, maybe letting gun enthusiasts breath in the regular air for a bit?
That’s a great point-the rampant enthusiasm is still there but the flames aren’t being stoked in the same organized fashion.
Is that normal for where you live? If I saw someone was a gun and knife I’d freak out. I live in coastal Calif and maybe some people have guns hidden but I think getting a license for one is very difficult.
I don't understand that clang on a person. A knife is a useful thing, many guys who grew up before 1975 carry knives or multi-tools now and it's even a trope from NCIS and Leroy Jethro Gibbs. Show me a rural guy over the age of 18 who doesn't. But a pistol?
My DIL's beloved stepfather and brother are always armed in pictures on FB. Drives me crazy, who or what will they encounter in one of the poorest rural counties of Iowa that requires 17 9mm bullets?
I picked up the habit from my grandfather (carrying a swiss army knife), got a Leatherman as soon as I saw one, and basically never looked back. I feel weird without a tool like that, tbh. I don't always carry one, but it's in my studio/workspace, on my desk, etc. at least.
I can't imagine carrying a pistol. It seems both comical/cos-playish and super frightening and dystopian.
I’m always glad the folks that refuse to let the ATF use digital records (“confiscation!!”) meticulously documents their guns online.
The criminals in Atlanta might come north, and “I’ve gotta protect your mama, she’s delicate” (literal words from his mouth). He also has a Doberman that would eat your face on his command, but is a goofy snuggle bunny for family. 🙄
Now what I will say about his 72 year old ass is that he’s still steady and has good reflexes, still 20/20 vision, and he’s sharp as shit, and when someone hurt my son he was right behind me absolutely vicious in protecting him without pulling out a weapon, ready to throw down with fists (old man, one hip surgery was enough). But Jesus, the armory is unnecessary in FOCO, GA.
Do you really think we believe that astroturf bullshit?
"Upon being elected, I will give the United States Congress 100 days to get their act together and have the courage to pass reasonable gun safety laws. And if they fail to do it, then I will take executive action."
--Kamala Harris
Look it up if you don't believe me.
Do you feel any shame when you repeat empty propaganda like "joy?"
Idk what to say. I want to be profound, I want to draw from history, but nothing feels strong enough, so I’ll just say: I can’t remember the last time I was genuinely excited like this.
Fuck. Yeah.
Do your eyes get real wide when you see cotton candy too? Because this was equally saccharine, fluffy and lacking substance.
Expand on that, if you feel like you've actually got something to say, Mr. Lacking Substance.
She literally said free speech in America is a contingent privilege, this is radically incorrect it is a Connotationally guaranteed right under the 1st Amendment. Considering she passed the BAR, she does know better, and is lying on behalf of the tyranny of overturning the Bill of Rights.
*constitutionally
You might learn the right word if you study for your GED, let alone the Bar Exam.
LOL, you gave me nothing to expand on, your post was wholly lacking policy specifics. Would you like to discuss a specific policy like Harris's attack this weekend on X for allowing free speech that is legal under the 1s Amendment, and thus with which the government is barred from interfering with?
I gave you nothing because I... wasn't talking to you lol. You also were replying to the content of the article, which you seem to have a problem with, only no now you want me to feed you talking points to be shrill about.
But sure if you want to talk about an alleged attack on Harris, go for it, I'm all ears. After that we can talk about how Elon the Free Speech Absolutist so far has an 80% compliance rate with speech restriction requests from authoritarian governments.
Read this and learn something you highly indoctrinated partisan.
https://www.racket.news/p/liberalism-removes-its-mask
So just to verify:
1) You came here unprompted and made incendiary comments
2) You immediately tried to deflect instead of making an entire point, presumably because you had none.
3) You then pulled in something that had nothing to do with the article we're both commenting on, nothing to do with your earlier comments, and refused even to defend that more than one level deep.
4) You shared an article from a dude who thinks Trump was the victim of a "palace coup" as your source of unbiased journalism.
And through all this... I'm the partisan?
You know if I didn’t know better, I’d say banning me from your little echo chamber was a tantrum, which I have on good authority Real Men don’t have. Come here to play any time, cupcake. You are adorable.
I want to give a shout-out to the one-man focus group in Mara-lago offering real-time feedback about Harris’ speech. 50 tweets in an hour is a pretty good sign Harris nailed it.
What a sweaty, desperate fool he is.
I guess he called in to Fox News during the speech and they cut him off. He then called NewsMax and kept ranting.
Pathetic.
Apparently you could hear him pushing on the buttons of his phone while he was on the air.
I wonder if he's going to show up to the debate now.
He’s like a drunk stumbling out of his neighborhood bar and getting a cab to go drink at the strip club near the airport which is open later.
This is straight out of the How to Show You Are A Serious Man manual..
Someone did the math—it was basically a post every 78 seconds.
"A serious speech" is exactly right. And I'm glad for it.
So much has been made about Harris as the "joyful warrior" - and clearly that's a message that is resonating and needs to be in the mix. But that speech demonstrated that Harris is Presidential with a capital "P" - and being serious about the challenges the country faces played a large part in that.
I thought it was tone-perfect.
She’s smart and personable and her experience as VP and knowledge of foreign affairs and the way things actually work shone through last night. How anyone can listen to her and then listen to trump and say I’m undecided or yeah I’ll go with the Hannibal Lector guy, is mind boggling. Tax cuts and hating people of color and taking away abortion rights is a hell of a drug.
Loved this-
"My entire career, I've only had one client: the people. And so, on behalf of the people, on behalf of every American regardless of party, race, gender or the language your grandmother speaks, on behalf of my mother and everyone who has ever set out on their own unlikely journey, on behalf of Americans like the people I grew up with, people who work hard, chase their dreams, and look out for one another, on behalf of everyone whose story could only be written in the greatest nation on earth, I accept your nomination to be president of the United States of America."
Maybe if you have a room temperature IQ she looks smart and personable, to normal people she looks like the drunk middle manager boss who locks herself in the office when hung over.
Dude you are adorable. Keep the hits coming, desperation is a stinky cologne.
If she's so smart, can she explain what "being unburdened by what has been" and any of her other nonsense word salad utterances? I just can't imagine how any normal person thinks she's smart at all.
It amazes me that people can be as stupid as you are
Same.
What was "serious" about it? The only substance was her undying commitment to continue funding and supplying arms for Israel's genocide in Gaza, which is nauseating.
And isn’t it funny that nobody referred to her potential presidency as groundbreaking? It’s so smart to just let a woman of color tell her story as an American story and her rise as a result of American opportunity. I know there will be flaws in the days and weeks ahead, because nobody is perfect, but this campaign so far is as close as it gets.
Exactly! Leave the identity grievances to the GOP. Harris is Harris, and her story is all of our stories. We can all see something of ourselves in her upbringing, and she framed that perfectly against the non-relatability of Trump.
Koolaid Oh Yeah!
Groundbreaking in what way? The one assignment she got as VP border czar she hopelessly fucked up and now we have Venezuelan gangs taking over apartment complexes in Colorado.
That's because of that happened with Hillary Clinton. People felt they were being "forced" to vote for her because of the historic nature of her candidacy. Harris speech was all about demonstrating that you should vote for her because she's the most qualified candidate. Her race and sex don't matter. It's a very smart message that targets white, independent voters.
I was watching the MSNBC coverage, and they talked about that a bit after, how she is not leaning into the historic nature of it all, and it makes a lot of sense.
I wasn't worried about her presentation or her rhetoric, but she managed to exceed my expectations and I very much enjoy the fact she crushed it.
Now I'm going back to fretting about the way MAGA racists have set things up to force the outcome of the election to come from the courts. They've made election ratf#%*ing into a life goal at this point (has there ever been a candidate shout out to the efforts of state-level election board members?) . I can only hope and beg the Harris/Walz margin of victory is wide enough --looking at you, Georgia-- to leave no room for even remotely plausible, bad faith election fraud protests.
It was a great speech.
It was vapid, empty bullshit
Surely these people must know that, and they are actually lying?
So which Discord are you and Mr. Raven from? Or was it just 8kun? Either way, your mom's calling you for dinner. I hope you have enough Good Boy Points for a plate of tendies.
wut?
100% agree, Dustin. The entire convention was a superb set up for the final act and it met all hopes and expectations! I had a hard time falling asleep last night.
ETA. She has such great instincts. On Sunday, CNN published a piece about Harris being told to stop saying "we're not going back," and "weird." She listened and basically said nah, Imma listen to what the audience is organically giving us. This is a benefit of a short election cycle. No spending months or years researching or testing things developed in a laboratory. Just listen to the people. We will tell you every time.
From CNN: "Over the line came a lot of praise, but also some suggested tweaks. First, said veteran Democratic numbers man Geoff Garin, summarizing their analysis, stop saying, “We’re not going back.” It wasn’t focused enough on the future, he argued. Second, lay off all the “weird” talk — too negative."
I’m glad she ignored them. They are weird and we’re not going back and do something are easy slogans for us to say and keep saying.
We're not going back is a perfect antidote to Make America great again. It's a fight phrase that can be chanted.
And the weird thing is perfect because it seems to have really gotten under the right's skin. And any time they try to defend against it, it's just a confirmation of how weird they are. Why are you like this? Etc
I'm starting to think some of these campaign advisors don't get it.
I mean, campaign advisors from Pod Save America said things needed to be shaken up because the media was going to get tired of joy.
Yeah, the PSA boys aren't always right or even properly informed, but they sure think they are. I stopped listening to them when they joined the MSM drumbeat to put Biden out on the ice floe in that graceless, insensitive, unkind way that so many had. A real "fuck you for your service, Mr. Biden."
The MSM are not Kamala's and Tim's. MSM belong to their corporate and oligarch masters. If they get tired of joy, it's because it doesn't serve their purposes when meddling in politics (instead of merely reporting on the politics).
Kamala listened to the people. That's what she should be doing. As a mere American citizen, I'm tired of the idea that many of us are people while others are People and some are PEOPLE. Cepiche? Democracy NOW!
"Unburdened by what has been..." You do realize that was the worldview of the inner party in 1984? The reason people attack history is because they don't want you to have any standards to compare the present day to.
And those sayings work because they mean something. They're not empty the way a lot of slogans can be. Anyone paying attention knows exactly what "we're not going back" really means and what we're actually being threatened with. And they are truly weird, no doubt. And Do Something is the antidote to despair and spiralling anxiety. Any of these could come from a wise friend, therapist or mentor giving you life skills.
I love that she's going with her instincts. it feels like a lot of the tweaks or feedback (present or past) usually come from appealing to whatever the media says is valuable not what actual people think.
Kick that fucking door down!
Yes she can.
I do wonder what the DNC was thinking putting Panetta, Kinzinger, Kelly & Cooper in the Day 4 slots. To me, it felt like they really put the brakes on the momentum that had been building all week. Like, yes, they should have spoken at the DNC, but maybe not Day 4? Maybe Day 1 or 3? Not Roll Call Day. That was it's own special party, and I have already watched it three times.
I know that a "special guest" might have stolen some thunder if done right before Harris spoke, but I can't help but think that they (whoever "they" might have been) could have at least warmed up the crowd to surface-of-the-sun levels before Maya Harris came out and made the introduction. Her speech should have been Harris's intro, not Cooper's.
Kelly and Cooper’s slots might have been a consolation prize after missing the Veep slot.
Kinzinger is so the summary of yesterday’s events that low information voters might hear includes a sentence about how former Republicans have endorsed Harris (and probably some targeted ads).
Pannetta was to burnish her foreign policy credentials and maybe to put a thumb in the eye of the Trump campaign for the Clinton campaign leaks they promoted.
A fair point, but I do feel it brought down the temperature a little bit.
The Tennessee Three were supposed to speak last night. I'm bummed they were bumped, but I'msure there was a good reason.. They are living in Republican he'll right now.
I don’t know. Day three was a snooze. I wish the Tennessee Three had spoke.
My guess is they looked at Day 4 and her speech as a pitch to all voters, including trying to bring in dissatisfied Republicans and conservatives, as well as swing states of Arizona and North Carolina. The 3 days leading up to it were the celebration for the Democrats, who are already supporting her completely.
Thank you for articulating why, as good as her speech was, Day 4 felt off. Except for a few exceptions, Warren, & the Exonerated Five, & Rep. Maxwell Frost, it felt like what Biden’s day 4 would’ve been like had he not dropped out. Moderates, centerists, & Never Trumpers. I would have preferred a better mix of all of the party. Like, AOC should have been saved for day 4 in a prime time slot.
And only one effing Republican because for all their “I’m voting Harris/Walz” they still are republicans who vote the GOP party line when push comes to shove. I would bet that pretty near every single one of them would leave the Democrats in the lurch if Trump suddenly drops out & the GOP put someone like Nikki Haley in his spot. They shouldn’t spend so much time giving air to people whose only reason to vote for the Democrats is because of Trump.
"(I’ve been wondering a lot the last couple of weeks if the Supreme Court would have ruled the same way if they thought Kamala Harris would be President)." the "conservatives" on the Supreme Court were involved in the Clinton impeachment and Gore V Florida as advocates for Bush among other things, they have never apologized, no need to wonder.
She is the cure, provided voters vote keep a Dem Senate majority.
Go Jon Tester!
I just read an article about how Tester's opponent "stepped on the third rail" of Montana politics, originally advocating for local takeover of Federal lands, which will ostensibly lead to privatization. Having just got to Colorado, I can tell you how unpopular privatization of public lands is out West. Everyone wants their public access to land and lakes and rivers for hiking and hunting and fishing. I hope Tester's opponent takes a BIG hit on his unpopular opinion, which nicely coincides with Trump's similar opinions on privatizing public domains.
Here's hoping. Republicans have never quite figured out how to splice pro-business privatization with 'Don't Tread on Me' rural libertarianism, which is how you get these wonky Tester or John Bel Edwards wins.
On public lands, there is also a contingent who wants more public lands opened up—the ranchers especially want more grazing and water use rights (even though they get plenty), and then mining corps want more opened up for mining. That’s how you get the Bundys and their supporters.
Repeating myself but still:
LFG!!
Harris left it all on the field. Now is our time! Let’s not half- ass this!
RFK Jr. *sigh* There's always a spoiler, right? How this man thinks, with his voice issue, Trump, of all people, is going to give him a prominent role in his administration is beyond me. I have no doubt Trump mocks his voice behind his back. No way will he hire him. RFK Jrs dad and uncle are rolling in their graves. What a joke he is.
They need to discredit RFKJ in a way that resonates and sticks like glue for all the low-information voters out there who just hear "Kennedy" and stop thinking. When people hear or see him, they need to NOT see JFK, RFK, Jackie, Ethel, poor little John-John saluting, touch football, etc. They need to see a rich a$$hole who said "Vote for me and the Google guy's ex-wife to fight corruption!" - then crawled up the hole of the twice-impeached, convicted-felon to beg for a job.
He ain't Jack.
He ain't Bobby.
He ain't sh*t.
Yeah how dare RFK Jr. call out the proxy war war against Russia, and how our corporate agribusiness based food system is killing people with low nutrition food, leading to people eating more, leading to obesity, leading to heart disease? That would require actual thinking, so much easier to float along on a cloud of substance free "joy," spiced with ad hominem idn' it?
Sigh!